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there it is everyone.

if anyone else wants to talk to a wall go ahead and post on college bowling.com also.  but as we all know, it does no good.

LU always has and always will be the black sheep of college bowling.

I fully appreciate what Karl and Gary are trying to due for college bowling (generally make it better).  But bowling is a unique sport.  Bowling is highly a participation sport in a sense that most anyone can do it.  Surely there is a hierarchy of talent, but college bowling is unique in the sense that anyone can go out there and try to compete (if their school of choice has the funds). 

Wanna make college bowling better?? I agree that things should have been changed...but to try to manipulate the rules to turn college bowling into something its not...shame on them.

If anyone wants to read what i had to post...it read as followed
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First of I would like to congratulate everyone that was looking forward to this proposal going through. We do all appreciate your dedication to college bowling and your hard work you put in to further advance this sport (Im not being sarcastic either, all though i disagree with this, I do think that Karl and Gary are good for college bowling)...
...But was this really the right move?

Everyone knows where I stand on this. Everyone knows that I felt like something could be done, but this was the wrong way to take it. Some of my facts and opinions that I put out there in the previous thread were rebutted and I accepted that, but there were some points myself (and others) made that were kind of danced around.

What is this really going to do? Spread the talent? Make more teams more competitive? I have a feeling its going to definitely change the look and feel of college bowling, but i am not sure how. I feel like it will...

A) Force smaller fields in tournaments
B) Force tournament directors to have less payouts and less money on top (general less prize fund)
C) Force some of the less talented bowlers to rethink their choices and school and possibly settle on their second/third/fourth choice.

While all this happens I also feel like...

A) The elite bowlers will still go to the same schools due to better opportunities (higher scholarships, more coaching, prestige of being apart of one of the elite programs, ball sponsorships...etc.)
B) The battle for top spots in college tournaments will not be to mixed up after this rule. You will still have the elite teams winning the tournaments. However, the battle for 5th, 6th, and 7th place will be mixed in with new teams rather than teams entered by the same school.


Is this really what we wanted to achieve?

How do some of the tournament directors feel about this? Now that your soon going to have to face problems with filling tournaments with this new rule? Dug Barker? Shawn Wochner? I know you two run tournaments where schools enter multiple teams...Do you think it will hurt your tournaments or do you think it will be OK to have less teams/less prize fund?

I still believe the right move was to just limit the number of times a school can cash in a tournament. Keep the prize funds up. Spread the money to the lower schools that still place.

I am sure this will just get looked over since i am affiliated with Lindenwood so therefore i am biased. But hopefully someone will see that I am really just trying to question logically if this was the right move. Get other people thinking about it and maybe question the powers that be instead of following like blind mice.


USBC wanna really help college bowling and the smaller programs? How bout help funding the smaller programs so they can come out and compete 10+ tournaments a year. How bout hiring the smaller programs real coaches (and I say real coaches in all due respect to the coaches of smaller programs out there). But i am talking real trained coaches.



I hope for the sake of college bowling I am wrong. College bowling gave me some of the best memories I have of the sport, and I'd hate to see it eventually turn the wrong way because of this rule.




Ryan Council

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