ya know speaking as a statistic from lindenwood university and a former roomie of jason lowe, I would like to speak my mind on this situation.  Now I might be stepping on some toes when I am all done with this rant of a post but I will not hold anything back. 

First off when you talk about our practices, how would you like them to be.  One, I understand that our practices are not the greatest because hell I went there for two and a half semesters and prettyt much all we did was throw balls the down the lane and didnt do a damn thing else.  Now for some people that is a great time to work on individual games within themselves but as a whole/group of a collegiate team we needed to do more.  We needed to have set regimines and schedules for each week on what we are going to work on within the team concept or with certain individuals.  But it is hard with only have a few coaches that work fulltime jobs as managers of bowling alleys or pro shop operators.  Also it is that hard for them to get each and every person on the same page with the massive size of our team.  So yes I will agree with some of your bull**** whomever it is but thats where it ends.  because you havent encountered me or maybe you have because you will feel the rage of hell right now.

HOW DARE YOU ****IN PULL THIS BULL**** ON JLOWE...ONE...ARE YOU JUST EMBARASSED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WORK IN A PRO SHOP OR ARE YOU ONE OF THESE MOTHER ****ERS THAT THINKS THEY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROSHOP BUSINESS AND THINKS THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING AND NO ONE ELSE KNOWS A DAMN THING BUT YOU. WELL IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE A PRO SHOP PERSONAL JESUS...I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU I KNOW WHERE SOME HAMMER AND SOME NAILS ARE AND I'LL TACK YOUR ASS TO A ****IN CROSS...OR MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THESE MOTHER****ERS THAT THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE JLOWE IS YOUNG/OR IN COLLEGE THAT HE DOESNT KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT THE PRO SHOP BUSINESS...WELL I HAVE SOME MORE NEWS FOR YOU YOU MOTHER ****IN ****ER...HI I'M ONLY 21...I'VE WORKED WITH EBONITE FOR THREE YEARS, WORKED THE 2001 ABC MASTERS AND THE BALL THAT JASON COUCH WAS THROWING ON THE TELECAST IT WAS THE ONE I ****IN DRILLED UP AND I WAS ONLY 18...I WORKED ON THE PWBA HELPING OUT THE LADY PROFESSIONALS AS THEIR BALLREP FOR TWO WEEKS OUT ON TOUR, OH BY THE WAY I WAS ONLY 17 WHEN I DID THAT.  I WORKED ON NUMORUS DRILLING MACHINES, WORKED IN NUMORUS PROSHOPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WAS AN ASSISTANT MANAGER IN MY OWN PROSHOP FOR A YEAR BEFORE I WENT TO COLLEGE.... AND IF AGE IS YOUR BIAS AGAINST JLOWE, THEN YOUR BIAS IS WITH ME AS WELL. 

so with my ranting and raving out of the way i just have one more ****in thing to say.  AGAIN YOU ARE ****IN JEALOUS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PICK UP THE MOTHER****ING 7-10...OR YOU WOULDNT BE ****IN POKING FUN AT MARC FOR PICKING HIS UP.  I'M SO TIRED OF DEAING WITH MOTHER****ERS LIKE YOU WHO DO PERSONALLY THINK THAT THEY ARE ABOVE THE GAME.  THAT THERE IS NO ONE BETTER THAN YOU...YES THAT IS THE MENTALITY YOU HAVE IN THE SPORT OF BOWLING BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO COME OUT AND START BELITTLING PEOPLE...AND I WILL HAVE NO ONE TALK DOWN ON MY FRIENDS NO MATTER HOW FAR AWAY I AM....

OKAY...ONE MORE THING AND THEN I WILL CONCLUDE...IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE BALLS TO POST SOMETHING ON HERE HOW BOUT YOU ****IN PUT YOUR NAME AT THE BOTTOM AND SIGN IT LIKE A REAL MAN WOULD BUT MAYBE THEN AGAIN YOU MIGHT NO BE A MAN...YOU MIGHT HAVE A ****IN PUSSY BETWEEN YOUR LEGS IS YOUR GOING TO HIDE LIKE THIS...

GO **** YOURSELF AND WHILE YOUR AT IT TAKE A HORSECOCK IN THE ASS...

JOSHUA W. SMITH

i have a pretty good guess at who this is....i think hes being ever so clever tryin to stay conspicuous but hes pretty much given himself away.

we'll get to the bottom of this soon with open or closed fists. you know me...i'll pick a fight with anyone at a gas station or not.

f-u-c-k you

p.s. - its not clever or witty to come back and respond and bash mine or anyones bowling abilities on this team... and since im pretty sure i know who you are mr. buckeighty5 ....i wouldnt bash anyone about their bowling abilities without criticizing yourself you know where i live

heres my phone number - 636-255-5065

i'll be here til wednesday around 8pm.

you made your first mistake by submitting your negative thoughts of this team....while some are probably true and robust for the time being because we all know we have bowled like **** this season thus far. But how much more can you blame the bowlers for whats happening? You also implied your thoughts in such a way that you have overcasted the already negative locutions with more negativity. And that just ****es me off.

you made your second mistake by singling out j-lowe and marc.

you made your third mistake by thinking youre smarter than all of us.

you made your fourth mistake by posting on MY forum.

post your name you f ucking coward.

fin.

chase

Wow, quite some reaction from one stupid post!  Well we have heard from three current members of the team, and one former one.  Although Randy may wish otherwise, we shall now hear from one of the coaches. 

We are not perfect.  I am the only one of us who could have enough time to dedicate to making this a better team as I am unemployed, but I have kids to watch so I am unable to be at afternoon practices (you see this is not a perfect world so my wife works and therefore I have to get my kids, you seem slow so I am going to spell out everything for you).  I will refrain from the vulgarity of the other posters (but I totally agree with each one of them, and Josh, please take your meds).  Of course we could be much better, this is a veteran team that has returned almost everyone from last year.  This team should be challenging Wichita, Saginaw, and Nebraska (among others) for titles each tourney and they are not.  As a member of this staff I personally accept the blame for this.  We are not a Wichita like staff in any way, we all have other commitments and different backgrounds, but we could do better.  In that way you were not far off the mark in your assessment of the performance so far this year.  However I do not think this is a dead year, let alone a dead program!  The A team gelled in a way this weekend I had not seen yet, to me this signals a change for the positive.  The skill we have time to work on, being a team takes a long time and we may be getting there.  I this way you may have helped us out, oheighty5.  For that I thank you!

Now you personally attacked two of my bowlers (if you are too dense to figure it out I am Hanky the B Team coach).  I will take them in my own order.

You chose to take a fluke and make a point about it.  I have not seen the stats yet but Marc had a much better spare game this weekend than I have seen yet from him this year.  Picking a 7-10 is luck.  It was an awesome shot and it spurred the team on for the next two games but it is a luck shot.  Marc made an equipment change on Thursday and it has helped him improve his spare game, something that will keep getting better as he gets used to the ball and gets it to feel right.  Marc and I have not seen eye to eye on every decision this year but I respect the time he has put in and the improvement he has shown, both on the lanes and off, and I hope the feeling is mutual.  So you have shown that you can drop events but know little of the real details.

Now on to Jlowe.  As far as I am concerned you cannot have been more wrong about any one on this squad.  Jay is a bit goofy at times but that does not take away from what he knows about the equipment out there.  You chose to make a personal shot and have succeeded in showing him who his friends are.  I am proud to count myself as one of them.  He is a knowledgeable bowler who does what you chided the rest of the team for, he picks his spares and stays with the shot if it will keep his leaves simple.  He never complains about sitting out or being pulled (even in the middle of the tenth during Baker) and he always pulls for those who are in.  That is what it takes to make a great team, not sitting on the outside taking pot shots from behind a cryptic name, oheighty5.

Sincerely,

Jim Hankemeyer

I have to agree with Bucky on the performance of the men's team and their practice regiment.  Since this was my first semester as HC, I'm just happy to have got through it.  However, we did not improve as a team.  Our results and practice habits are topics that I will address later.  However, overall, I'm happy with grades of the athletes and the health of the program.  Good luck to all of you during finals week.

BTW, to Bucky (I know who you are) and the past "dynasty"...

-The overall conduct of this team was pretty good.  Why past team members thought that kicking racks and damaging equipment was "funny" is still a mystery to me!!!

-The unity of the men's and women's team this year is refreshing.  The animosity the two teams showed each other in the past was appalling and immature!

I know that Chase checked the e-mail address that they used to sign their screen name up, and it wasn't real.  I am also pretty sure that the posts can be traced to what computer and location they are posting from, but I don't think that's been done...yet.

I told you my memory was bad...

I did do work for Suzy...

Well, if you hate to say "I told you so"...then why are you?

Personal attacks on the team members are really uncalled for, though.  If you don't like somebody's work, I invite you to do better.  I'll even loan you my shop...while I'm there. (I'm used to correcting other's mistakes.)

i felt i needed to post tonight because there were a couple things on my mind. First of all i have been at lindenwood for 4 years and there has been no "dynasty" of my knowledge. Because a "dynasty" is a team that goes to nationals and wins. There has only been 1 lindenwood mens team to make it to nationals and we did not win. So no one has the right to use that word espesially people that have bowled on previous teams. Now on to my second opinion i beleive that people who go onto posts and bash people are cowards they have no BALLS and i say that seriously. Put your ****ing name on the bottom or even tell the person face to face then you can actually say that one time in you bull**** life that you lifted up your skirt and grabbed your balls. Third thing, i know this year i been having problems with spares i will be the first one to say it. But for you to tell me that i need two pins just to hit one  it ****es me off because you didn't leave your name, because if you were my friend it would not bother me but you didnt leave your name so i take it as a insult.

so please do me a favor show your face we can have some words !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i cant spell so bare with me

marc schofield (wow signing my name was easy)

I have tried to keep my mouth (fingers) silent about buckeighty but now I can't hold it back any longer.  Everything was fine with me until you singled out individuals.  That is where I draw the line.....

J Lowe knows a s***load more about equipment than I do and would take his word over most everyone else I know.  So far he has been pretty accurate in almost everything he has told me about ball choices.  If there was a problem with the ball reaction, it was something that I personally did wrong.  If I did what I was supposed to do, his knowledge showed with the results I got.  So your points about him are extremely far fetched.

AS for Marc, way to go on the 7-10....wish I could have seen that.  Hanky is right that is a luck shot but it is really something to see it done anyway.  Marc has been struggling this season so far with his spares....come to think of it most of us have.  Some of that can be attributed to the fact his spare ball was too light and it threw him off balance at the line.

As far as the team goes, we can only play with the deck we're given.  If that means our practices aren't as rigid and structured as a team like Wichita, so be it.  I don't blame Randy or the coaches for the practice situation.  It is far from their faults.  If they can not be at practice, they can't.  That's how it is.  We (bowlers) need to accept it and deal with it as best we can (and I think we all have).  That can be changed though and I truly feel that if Randy and the other coaches can figure out how to change it, they most definitely will.  If not, then us bowlers will have to figure out a way to do it.  It can be done!

This year has been by far the best (and most fun) one I've had at LU (this is my third year now).  One of the reasons is the one Randy put forth in the fact that the guys and girls teams are getting along much better than my first two years.  I'm much more at ease (and I always was one to get along with everyone as it was) with everyone on the team because I don't sense the tension that has been in place.

Of course I see problems and have minor issues, but when you have damn near 40 people that is practically impossible to avoid.  I am sure everyone on the team can probably pick out one or two minor things they aren't happy about.

As for you, buckeighty....you are a spineless cowardly piece of ****.  You are truly showing how much of a man you are by not signing a name.  Of course....having read this thread so far, I wouldn't want to sign my name either if I were you.  You are making a ton of enemies and if the team ever finds out who you are......you might want to look at getting a one way ticket to the Amazon Flood Basin....that might be your only chance of us not finding you (and even then you better do some heavy praying).

I know I am not the best bowler on the team.  I know that there are a lot of people in this world who are better than me.  I know we may not be the best team in the nation.  But I will still take my chances in a singles match against most anyone out there.  I will take my chances putting nearly any individual from the LU team against almost any individual out there.  And I will most definitely take my chances putting almost any five from the LU team against damn near any other 5 individuals out there.  Buckeighty, if you want to see that as a personal challenge....go right ahead.  I have a pretty fair idea of what everyone on this team is capable of and what we aren't.

Yeah as team members we (I know I'm guilty) might tease and make fun of other team members here at LU, but I know I sure as hell won't let any outsiders say anything about one of my teammates/friends.  Kinda goes back to the whole 'I can beat the living **** out of my brother or sister but I damn well better not catch anyone else trying' thing.

For the team....hope everyone has a wonderful and safe break and I'll see all of ya next month....won't be attending J-Term so good luck at the Hoinke.  I'll do what I can to be at least some practices.  My wrist is getting much better I might be able to throw a ball again next week.....I'm going to try at least.

eromynaseracgnikcufohw

In response to Melissa, yes a check can be done to find the IP address of the computer a person uses to do pretty much anything on the internet.  The only problem is that it is a little time consuming and if the computer was a public access terminal then it would be near impossible to find out who was using it at a certain time.  But most definitely that can be done.  It has been done by the FBI in some cases and other companies use this process as well.  Don't know if Chase wants to go through all that knowing its possibly going to come up fruitless if it winds up being a public access terminal.  But it can be done.

Also to reply to Foot, I sincerely hope it does not come to that and I appreciate how you have let us be adults and superivse ourselves.

Being an adult is more than saying "I can do what I want"...it is being trusted to follow whatever rules are set down by those in authority.  Everyone knows people that they don't trust for some reason or another...for the most part, people don't like them very much.  It's too much of a strain having to worry whether or not they will betray one's trust again.

If "having fun" is more important than doing what you're paid to do (yep, folks, those scholarships weren't given because you're nice people, they were given because you have a talent for bowling), then why are you here?  Bowling is your job, whether or not you like it.  Class comes first; I understand having conflicts with classes means some of you can't attend every practice.  But...where are you when you don't have class?  Can't practice at 3pm?  How about 10am, or noon, or 9pm?  Need a practice regimen for bowling by yourself?  Come see me; I'll write you one.  It's called discipline.

You know what's a LOT of fun?  Winning.  Winning a tournament is a blast...for everybody.  Doesn't matter which of our teams wins, either. 

Remember, folks, whoever pays the bills gets to set the rules, whether we like it or not.  The school pays a lot of dollars for you to both be here and to go to tournaments.  Unlike most other schools, you don't have to raise funds or pay out-of-pocket to be able to bowl.  You have a lot of advantages over other schools; use those advantages to your benefit. 

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Originally posted by: Coach Dog
"Being an adult is more than saying "I can do what I want"...it is being trusted to follow whatever rules are set down by those in authority.  Everyone knows people that they don't trust for some reason or another...for the most part, people don't like them very much.  It's too much of a strain having to worry whether or not they will betray one's trust again. If "having fun" is more important than doing what you're paid to do (yep, folks, those scholarships weren't given because you're nice people, they were given because you have a talent for bowling), then why are you here?  Bowling is your job, whether or not you like it.  Class comes first; I understand having conflicts with classes means some of you can't attend every practice.  But...where are you when you don't have class?  Can't practice at 3pm?  How about 10am, or noon, or 9pm?  Need a practice regimen for bowling by yourself?  Come see me; I'll write you one.  It's called discipline. You know what's a LOT of fun?  Winning.  Winning a tournament is a blast...for everybody.  Doesn't matter which of our teams wins, either.  Remember, folks, whoever pays the bills gets to set the rules, whether we like it or not.  The school pays a lot of dollars for you to both be here and to go to tournaments.  Unlike most other schools, you don't have to raise funds or pay out-of-pocket to be able to bowl.  You have a lot of advantages over other schools; use those advantages to your benefit.  -- Edited by Coach Dog at 17:13, 2004-12-08"

 

He is right about the practices b/c I can't make the 3:00 practice and I still make up my practice at a different time..... it's not hard at all to take an hour out of your day to go practice if I can do it so can u!

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OK...I've been quiet for awhile, and I haven't been mentioned personally much at all, but I would still like to say a few things...

I have an interesting perspective to bring to this whole topic.  I've experienced first hand how things can be elsewhere.  Bottom line, there is quite a bit more freedom within this program than others.  But, with that freedom comes responsibility... to yourself, your teammates, your coaches and your school.  As was mentioned earlier, LU is paying most, if not all the bills.  As a result, everyone should make the most of those privileges, even if that involves a few more followed rules. 

Those privileges include having not just one, but several coaches that genuinely care about you and want you to get better and succeed as bowlers AND as human beings.  I don't know how the men's side is, but I talk to quite a few players from other schools on the women's side that just wish they had ANY coach willing to stand by them and help at tournaments, let alone practices. 

As far as our practices go... First of all, IT'S FREE!  That's a nice deal!  Perhaps they weren't as organized as they should be, but I think everyone on this team realizes that it takes work to get better, whether someone is there guiding you at all times or not.  I know how much Randy has had on his plate this semester taking over an entire college bowling program.  The amount of paperwork that's required behind the scenes can be overwhelming at first and I can relate to him being happy just to have made it through.  I have every confidence that he will arrive in 2005 ready to go.  

As far as me personally, I wish nothing more than to have the ability to attend every practice, but I can't.  So, I try to do as much as I can during the time that I have.  Everyone (including the guys) is more than welcome to participate!  In the meantime, there are others around that are more than willing to help when asked.

At the risk of sounding like I had to walk uphill both ways in the snow...I bowled for, and helped coach a college program that was lucky to exist because the school considered it a club sport and didn't fund it much at all.  We were happy just to be bowling at the college level and representing our school, win or lose.  We didn't take it for granted.

That's why I have no problem when we take a bus load of teams.  If someone is committed to getting better, responsible enough to take a road trip and enjoy the experience of college bowling, they should have the chance to participate, win or lose.  

You probably don't realize this now, but there is nothing quite like the college bowling experience.  I guarantee that when it's all over, you won't find anything that duplicates it.  So, I encourage you to take advantage of the opportunity, focus on the positive aspects and win or lose, enjoy it like there's no tomorrow...because tomorrow will come sooner than you think.

Coach Phil