NEED HELP!! please any players, past, preseent AND COACHES READ THIS

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NEED HELP!! please any players, past, preseent AND COACHES READ THIS

footpba · So L33T It Hurts

The first pattern is long with really low volume. 17 ml, super light for that length. Plus most of the oil is on the reverse pass. I guess they want to not have too much to buff down so the heads hold up. Good luck with that confuse

The pattern starts at 12, so I don't see many starting outside of 15m unless they're named Cunningham.

bottomline, I think it will open up, but late burn could be effed up.

-- Edited by footpba on Wednesday 9th of December 2009 06:23:00 PM

footpba · So L33T It Hurts

The second pattern looks like the Leatherneck pattern. 43 ft, a little les oil, but very simular. So far, this looks to favoring high rev guys.

footpba · So L33T It Hurts

Seoul is has a chamleon look to it. I looks a little flater than the other two with the blend going from 5 to 16. I think how this will play depend on the surface, but guys will be everywhere. That first load starts at 5 so turds like me will give first arrow a look. wink

footpba · So L33T It Hurts

Don't kid yourself, the Beijing is a kitty pattern. 35 ft, 23 ml, this is a cheetah clone all the way. One difference; look at the load ratio, 6 to 1

It's a wall.
Now it may not play that easy, who really knows until you bowl on it, but I think it will be high scoring.

Also, the blend stops at the 9 board. Only 3 ml gutter to gutter, the first pattern, Paris had 12 ml and it was only 17 total.
I would start out with shiny, mellow equip. I think it will be wet/dry.
A good chance the power guys screw this up. Using a lot of surface deep could destroy the shot.

footpba · So L33T It Hurts

Quick summary;

Paris- long, low volume pattern. Very defined bump around 3-4 arrow. Use sanded, hooking equip. Good luck in this holding up.

London- A shark wannabe. Use similar equip as Paris. This will open up at the end of the day and scores will be high.

Seoul- The flatest of the 4. Good fair distance and oil amount. Can play anywhere at the start. I don't think it will be high scoring.

Beijing- Cheetah clone with more oil in the middle and less outside. Duke and WWjr would never stop striking...

BTW, these are just my opinions. It gives you a starting point.
Feel free take my thoughts and throw 'em in the trash can.

Dolphino

Town · Posting Guru

thanks dolph...that gives me alot better idea of what im looking at.

could u give me a lil more insight on the second pattern. the one that said looked like the leatherneck? as i was watching but wasnt bowling so im still a little confused.

ryan

Todder · Regular

Paris looks identical to that interesting pattern we bowled on in Detroit for Junior Gold when everyone and their blind (whatever you prefer) went plus a billion including Spink who averaged 250. I mean i even had front 9 at one point. If you were in the right part of the lane it was almost impossible to tug it far enough to go high. I guess the only "tricky" part is surviving the first game, then moving fast enough to keep up with only 17ml.

Town · Posting Guru

confirmed that its proanvilane surface. 9 game blocks. any more insight from anyone? thanks again dolph, mct, and steve miller (he texted me, just didnt write it on here).

ryan

footpba · So L33T It Hurts

Ryan - the london pattern looks like the shark. Keep it tight in the track and follow it in as it breaks down. In fact, I looked at the pba shark and its same distance with 31 ml (compared to london's 23). This should play okay after breaks down an be fairly high scoring. You'll need surface early until it opens up.

Matt, i can see that Paris Pattern is pretty tall. I'm still surprised it had enough recovery as long as it is. How did it play later in the day? That is half the units of the pba shark. I just don't know how this pattern will stay on the lane with this low amount of oil?

Todder · Regular

I'm almost positive the pattern in Detroit was this exact thing or very very similar. I remember it was 47 feet and about 17-19 mils. For 1 game i had NO recovery...i played literally no hook dead down 15 about as slow as i could throw it and grinded a 190. But even in that game i could see higher rev players getting the ball to turn ...and even hook very early. This was on proanvilane as well. It should be said that it was about 90 degrees in that house.

Later in the day is when i scored, but some people had great first games...Liz Siebel shot 300 game 1 i believe.

But by game 3 i was almost to 5th arrow and game 4 i shot 279. By game 6 i should have been in front of the ball return but didnt go. I was really surprised with how well the heads held up though. It wasn't at all like Match games where there was no head oil instantly. You could just chase it left and as long as you were deep enough you had unlimited tug room. There was a large amount of over reaction off the track if you got it there early...so i just didnt get it there at all. Play the fadeeeeeee...

In JOG we only bowl 6 games, but with nine games depending on the number of people on a pair it could get extreeeemly deep quick. I guess what youll have to watch for is whether or not people start at 12 or start at 25. If the field starts too deep it may get ugly.

Short pattern looks fun

Luckbox · Senior Citizen

The long and the short are easy. As long as you can control your ball at the end of the pattern the first few games. Since it is pro anvilane they will blend down the lane quickly to start and burn much later in the block. I will spend my practice on the long burning up a line. The long will melt and become super walled and the short will start to develop tug area while still being able to get it to hook from 1-2.

I think the 43ftish one is a hybrid of the shark. It plays exactly like it. I played every single part of the lane on it last year and didnt shoot myself in the foot on it. Like I said earlier since the lane doesnt burn fast I actually had to move right into oil and then jump left last few games.

The medium pattern looks tougher then the rest. If its anything like last year people crushed it who could get their ball to hold while playing straighter lines up the track. Cassidy and David Haynes made it look stupid while I looked like a guy who entered the wrong tournament. This is a pattern for that weak solid in your bag.

Town · Posting Guru

just finished practice session...will write what i THINK i saw later...gotta go to orientation right now...

Town · Posting Guru

practiced on all of them....this is just quick thoughts that i had of them...

started on the medium (seoul) and it hooks more than i thought it would. started with a very stable ball playing like 9-5. showed up to that pattern at the end of the practice session and that outside look i had was no where to be seen. ended up playing like 23-13ish. just had to go to a stable pearl. this pattern went away faster than i thought it would

then went to the long with no volume (paris). got no hook down lane. started basically squaring up to 15...just playing as straight as i can without giving up the 1-3. guys with hand eventually found hook. as they got drier there was no balls going back left at the break point for me tho. I had to just keep shoving left as the heads went (which was quickly) and play a fade...surprisingly had a good look doing it too. was using general surface to start and a virtual energy at a fresh 1k abralon later.

hit up the short after this one (bejing)...this one was rocket science. stand where u wanna and feed it right. lol. wasnt much guessing on where to play...just strictly matching up with the right ball/hand position. my best combo was with stronger pearls and trying to stay up the back of it to give a pretty smooth reaction. i had a good reaction with some of my weaker stuff and getting around it...but carry had me ringing 10s and 4s...so i think imma go with stronger stuff and staying behind it. this pattern held up better than i thought it would.

last one i bowled on was the longer pattern with volume (london). tough for me. couldnt find a real hook. got more hook than paris which was nice. seems like its gonna open up at the end. got to stay further right with my feet cause the heads held up which was nice but if u leak it right at all ur in lot of trouble. i played it pretty similar outta the gates as i did with paris except my ball selection. paris i liked my look with earlier and more stabler equiptment and on this pattern i like a little longer and quicker reaction equiptment.

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well i guess thats my report for now. maybe butch and dean will write something up too soon cause they might of seen different than i. but besides that, this has already been a great experience...usbc is really doing a good job with this tourny. good patterns. good format. all players get free practice every night from 9pm-1am which is sweet. the field is ridic...def the best are here. even fagan is bowling (so the rumor is...and he was at the practice session). so we will see...

OH btw. lucas wiseman has told us to spread the word that BOWL.COM will have live streaming during all qualifying blocks...much like the pba xtra frame setup. but this is free. well we start at 9am tomorrow. so good night all.

Ryan Council